Do you think suicide is selfish?
Ha, this is one of the stupidest things I’ve ever heard. I find it amazing that people can think that suicide is selfish in a world where people starve and no one cares about them, where in some countries there are people dying of disease or starvation, and the rich countries use them for profit and no one cares about their lives, where businesses can find every which way possible to cheap people and get extra profit money, where government workers take tax money and buy things for themselves with it, where people would be willing to kill millions unleashing a disease as a ‘war tactic’, or dropping an atomic bomb, where millions of people die in war, or as unborn babies, where older people get thrown into old folks homes because people just don’t want to deal with them anymore, where people go into debt to get that great new thing (TV, clothes, cell phone, cable, house, car, brand name designer bag etc. ), potentially endangering the (sometimes) financial security of their family,
and the MILLIONS more things that people do for SELFISH reasons…
And a lot of the time these things that people do are ‘accepted’ as normal or even ‘good’
And they say suicide is selfish because they are ‘only thinking of themself’ and not thinking of all their ‘friends and family’ that they will be hurting. I think not. I think that in some cases, it might be a waste of a life, but it is not selfish. It is defined as selfish by a culture and society that cannot accept something that goes against what their similarly screwed up parents told them should be normal. When somehow all the other things are.
It is more like being consumed by hatred and disgust at yourself and/ or the world so much that you can no longer see the use in even trying anymore.
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Wow. This is very succinctly put, your point is very clear…and strangely enough (wait for the shocker) I completely agree.
The world is a rather sick place when you think about it. Human nature is somewhat disgusting at times, the things we do, the way we treat other people who are composed of the same flesh and chemicals. How we treat even our own relatives (in some cases). The way we treat non-human animals. It’s all quite sickening to think about. And you’re right, how is going out and buying a TV with the money that would feed your kids that month NOT selfish?
I understand why people would want to leave this sick, sad world. I also agree with No Real Help on this one. People are indoctrinated/brainwashed into thinking a certain way and they can’t / don’t want to break the thought process.
To do anything that benefits you while hurting others is to some degree selfish. A completely selfless person would suffer any and all pain for somebody else’s benefit. A completely selfish person would kill everyone for a life of happyness. I consider suicide an understandable selfishness, as the suffering to drive someone to it is usually really bad. I would still try to stop it, just as I would try and save a severe burn victim. It’s like being very ill. You feel sick and miserable for awhile, then when you feel better, your glad you are alive.
It’s not selfish. It’s cowardly. These people who whine and complain about how bad the world’s current state of affairs are, but do nothing to help change it are stupid and idiotic. Killing yourself does nothing but add to the body count, and strains the wallets of immediate family members, thereby doing nothing more than accentuating the world’s already abundant level of suffering.
How about this; instead of bitching about how bad things are because your life hasn’t quite turned out how you would have liked, try making something of yourself. Try helping to improve the world instead of simply running away from it all like a coward. Then, if you’ve tried your darnedest to do your part in making things better, and ONLY then, would I truly be willing to look the other way while you wuss out.
Most people that say that have been indoctrinated into a specific way of thinking because of certain values that have been drummed into them since they could remember anything, as it was done to their parents, as it was done to their parents, ad nauseam. they do not kow any other way to think about it or believe any other way.
I think people with this attitude don’t know the pain one feels to be suicidal. I haven’t hit that low and I don’t know what’s going through their heads…but I’ve felt extreme hopelessness/helplessness…that’s hard to deal with.
I think it depends on the person. A lot of people never take into consideration the effect their death will have on those who love them, teens kill themselves because their girlfriend cheated, or because their parents didn’t go to their school concert, and some people do it because they can’t think of anybody but themselves so they do it just so they can hurt the ones that love them. I do believe there are justifiable reasons to commit suicide, but probably only 5% of people who do it, do it for the right reasons. You can’t compare death with financial crisis, because financial crisis passes, death is final. Try to think of it this way, if everyone who recognizes the injustices in the world commits suicide, who will be left to fight the good fight? Sometimes you just have to tune yourself out to the injustices in the world and take time to enjoy your own life. I would love to live in a perfect world, but I do not know how to change it, so I came to realize, taking care of myself and my needs are the most important, but you bet yout butt I try to make a difference by speaking out. Give the weight of the world to God, take a deep breath, and go do something you enjoy. Just let go of your anger and hatred, the more you try the better you will feel about life. We are alive so we can enjoy life, so try to enjoy it. I think most people come to this realization sooner or later, and this is the reason most people appear to be selfish, but the truth is most people feel just as hopeless as you do, they just need an escape from reality by learning to occupy their thoughts with other things. Nobody is perfect, but if those of us who really care about humanity end it, wouldn’t that be a selfish thing to do? Sometimes it is hard to see the sun shine through all the clouds, but if you try, you can see it. Be grateful for what you have, and learn to enjoy life, that is the only advice I can give you. I have major depressive disorder, and I think about suicide several times a day, but I have to push those thoughts out of mind and try to see the brighter things in life, because if I killed myself, I would leave 2 children behind who need me, a husband that depends on me, a mother who is sick and would probably die from the grief I caused her, which in turn would effect her husband, his children, and my 5 siblings. I could go on and on, but I know that if I killed myself, not only would I be selfish, but I would have allowed the bad side to win, and I would have left my children here to face this world alone. That would be a very selfish thing to do. There is always a reason to keep fighting another day, you just have to really think about why people are the way they are, and you will come to realize most people are struggling the same way you are, the only difference is they let go, they stopped worrying about the world and started worrying about themselves.
No, I don’t. I think people that commit suicide are just very depressed and beyond hope and think the world and other people would be better off without them. I thought about it when I had panic attacks and deep depression. I don’t think the mindset of a suicidal person is "I am going to kill myself and make others suffer." It’s more "I feel like a failure as a person and I can’t stand living anymore because it’s too painful." I have heard of husbands and wives being angry at a spouse who died of a disease or committed suicide. But can someone honestly be mad at someone with an illness or severe depression?